Meat: How to Prepare Meat Safely for Baby-Led Weaning

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<v SPEAKER_1>And heck, yeah, if your family eats animal foods, I want your baby to be eating beef and eating pork, but we don't do pieces of meat like steak or pork chops.

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<v SPEAKER_1>Those are huge choking hazards for early eaters.

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<v SPEAKER_1>My mantra is, if you can shred the meat between your fingers and your thumb, then it's safe for your baby to eat with their gums.

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<v SPEAKER_1>And there are certainly cuts of beef and cuts of pork and many different protein foods that you can make safe for Baby-Led Weaning.

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<v SPEAKER_1>And you can start this as early as six months of age.

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<v SPEAKER_1>And if you have been scared of offering your baby meat and you feel a little late to the game, here are the cuts of meat that I think are best for Baby-Led Weaning.

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<v SPEAKER_1>Hey there, I'm Katie Ferraro, registered dietitian, college nutrition professor, and mom of seven, specializing in Baby-Led Weaning.

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<v SPEAKER_1>Here on the Baby-Led Weaning with Katie Ferraro podcast, I help you strip out all of the noise and nonsense about feeding, giving you the confidence and knowledge you need to give your baby a safe start to solid foods using Baby-Led Weaning.

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<v SPEAKER_1>Tell me how you're doing with regards to your baby eating meat.

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<v SPEAKER_1>I talk to a lot of families who are like, we're good on the fruits and the vegetables, Katie.

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<v SPEAKER_1>Maybe we can do some cereal on occasion for some starchy food.

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<v SPEAKER_1>But the meat for some families is just unmanageable.

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<v SPEAKER_1>The thought of your baby picking up a piece of brisket and putting it in their mouth, like what are they going to do with it?

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<v SPEAKER_1>They don't have any teeth yet.

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<v SPEAKER_1>They don't really know how to chew and swallow yet.

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<v SPEAKER_1>Are they going to choke on it?

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<v SPEAKER_1>For families who eat animal foods, meat is actually a wonderful food for your baby to learn how to eat.

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<v SPEAKER_1>But it's probably of the five different food categories on my 100 First Foods list.

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<v SPEAKER_1>The protein foods, we have 20 protein foods, 10 are plant foods and 10 are animal foods.

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<v SPEAKER_1>Those 10 animal foods tend to be the toughest.

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<v SPEAKER_1>But in this episode, I'm going to show you how you can make meat safe for your baby to eat.

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<v SPEAKER_1>I like to start out each of these mini training episodes with a baby-led weaning tip of the day.

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<v SPEAKER_1>And my mantra for meat always has been, if you can shred the meat between your fingers and your thumb, then it's safe for your baby to eat with their gums.

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<v SPEAKER_1>So what that means is we don't do steak, we don't do pork chops, but hang tight.

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<v SPEAKER_1>Stick to the end of this episode, because I'm going to be sharing my favorite cuts of meat, especially for beef and pork.

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<v SPEAKER_1>If your family eats those, that do make soft shreddable strips of meat.

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<v SPEAKER_1>So my husband has not always been a huge baby-led weaning fan, and I would say that even with seven kids, every time we would start Solid Foods, he would come in the kitchen and be like, are you sure the baby can eat that?

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<v SPEAKER_1>Like, and he's like, listen, if you're not going to be supportive, I'm going to need you to leave right now.

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<v SPEAKER_1>But I would say the time that he provided the most support was whenever we were getting ready to do meat, not to be gender stereotypical, but he's from Texas and really likes meat.

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<v SPEAKER_1>He also likes cooking meat and preparing meat.

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<v SPEAKER_1>So on our 100 First Foods List, we have ribs, rib meat.

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<v SPEAKER_1>Rib meat is wonderful.

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<v SPEAKER_1>Certain types of ribs make nice soft shreddable strips of meat.

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<v SPEAKER_1>And so anytime a baby is coming over now to eat at our house, he's like, are we going to do ribs?

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<v SPEAKER_1>And I was like, yes, because if we're going to do ribs, he's going to help me with them because he likes to cook meat.

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<v SPEAKER_1>But I haven't always been a great meat cooker.

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<v SPEAKER_1>But here's the thing with Baby-Led Weaning, you do not have to actually be good at cooking in order to make soft shreddable strips of meat.

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<v SPEAKER_1>And some of these cuts of meat are so affordable and so easy to make.

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<v SPEAKER_1>Safe for your baby to eat, so let's dive in.

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<v SPEAKER_1>Let's start with why you would even want to offer your baby meat.

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<v SPEAKER_1>If your family doesn't eat meat, I totally get it.

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<v SPEAKER_1>There are other ways for your baby to get different texture experiences, to have some iron, to get some zinc.

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<v SPEAKER_1>Meat is not mandatory.

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<v SPEAKER_1>But if your family does eat meat, it's a good idea to incorporate it into your baby's diet.

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<v SPEAKER_1>And here's why, fruits and vegetables are great, but they don't cut it as far as meeting your baby's nutrition needs go.

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<v SPEAKER_1>Your baby's iron stores that they got from you, mom, at the tail end of pregnancy, those iron stores last for about the first six months of life.

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<v SPEAKER_1>But around the six-month mark, those iron stores start to dissipate.

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<v SPEAKER_1>And that's why we start the weaning diet and include iron-containing foods.

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<v SPEAKER_1>So which meats can your baby eat?

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<v SPEAKER_1>I mentioned that on my 100 First Foods list, there are 10 animal proteins.

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<v SPEAKER_1>We also have 10 plant proteins.

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<v SPEAKER_1>And if you don't have a copy of that 100 First Foods list and you want to grab it, I give it away to everybody for free on my online workshop called Baby-Led Weaning For Beginners.

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<v SPEAKER_1>You can sign up at babyledweaning.co.

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<v SPEAKER_1>I also linked it in the description.

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<v SPEAKER_1>It's a free online video workshop.

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<v SPEAKER_1>I show you a lot of the safe food prep techniques, including meat that we're going to talk about here.

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<v SPEAKER_1>But when it comes to what type of meat your baby can eat, I mentioned the soft shreddable strips of meat.

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<v SPEAKER_1>We don't want solid pieces of meat.

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<v SPEAKER_1>If you cannot shred the meat between your fingers and your thumb, then it's not safe for your baby to eat with their gums.

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<v SPEAKER_1>So I don't do steak, I don't do pork chops.

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<v SPEAKER_1>Also steer clear of dry, low-fat cuts of meat.

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<v SPEAKER_1>Things like chicken breast, okay?

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<v SPEAKER_1>Fat is your friend when you're starting solid foods.

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<v SPEAKER_1>We want the fattier cuts of meat.

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<v SPEAKER_1>So if we're talking about poultry, chicken, that means the legs, the wings, the thighs, those darker pieces of meat have more fat.

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<v SPEAKER_1>And when that meat cooks, the fat liquefies and then lubricates the protein strands, making it easier and safer for your baby to swallow.

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<v SPEAKER_1>So I have a couple of episodes specific to pork, specific to beef, specific to lamb, specific to poultry, specific to fish.

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<v SPEAKER_1>I'm going to link all of those in the description because I've gone in depth on the meats because it is the hardest thing for families that do eat animal foods to offer their baby.

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<v SPEAKER_1>And I want you to do it the right way.

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<v SPEAKER_1>If you're in my program, Baby-Led Weaning With Katie Ferraro, we have the whole 101st Foods content library.

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<v SPEAKER_1>If you click to the protein section, all 20 of the protein foods are listed in alphabetical order from the 101st Foods list.

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<v SPEAKER_1>Click on them, you'll see a video of me showing you how to safely prepare each of those meats.

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<v SPEAKER_1>And underneath that is information about that meat, including recipes for Phase 1, Phase 2, and Phase 3 of Baby-Led Weaning for making each of those meats.

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<v SPEAKER_1>And that's all inside of the program at babyledweaning.co.

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<v SPEAKER_1>What if you're not on board with the solid strips of meat yet?

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<v SPEAKER_1>I have families that are like, Katie, I'll do the meat, but like I literally cannot go from my baby having like mashed up avocado on day one, banana on day two, sweet potato on day three.

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<v SPEAKER_1>And now you're trying to offer strips of lamb roast on day four.

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<v SPEAKER_1>I totally get it.

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<v SPEAKER_1>That's why I teach a purees for a few days approach.

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<v SPEAKER_1>So in my purees for a few days approach, the first week of baby-led weaning, you can puree some of those solid strips of meat.

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<v SPEAKER_1>And this is fantastic because it's going to get you past that fear factor of meat.

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<v SPEAKER_1>So let's say you do lamb, and we do in the 100 First Foods Daily Meal Plan, that's part of my program, we do do lamb on day four.

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<v SPEAKER_1>And a lot of families are like, I've never cooked lamb.

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<v SPEAKER_1>I'm like, I know that.

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<v SPEAKER_1>That's why we put it up first.

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<v SPEAKER_1>But like lamb is an incredible, very, very easy meat to make safe for baby-led weaning.

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<v SPEAKER_1>We don't do the little lamb lollipops.

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<v SPEAKER_1>We don't do lamb chops, leg of lamb roast, bone in or bone out.

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<v SPEAKER_1>It's a little bit on the pricier side, but it makes a lot.

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<v SPEAKER_1>And so you can freeze the extras.

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<v SPEAKER_1>And like, you only have to make lamb once, but your baby gets to eat it a lot.

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<v SPEAKER_1>And you can take that lamb in the no salt broth that we cook it in, and you can puree the lamb together.

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<v SPEAKER_1>You can puree the lamb with breast milk or with formula.

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<v SPEAKER_1>And that's kind of nice, because it's a familiar scent to your baby.

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<v SPEAKER_1>And you can put it on a pre-loaded spoon and put that spoon in your baby's hand, and they bring the spoon to their mouth.

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<v SPEAKER_1>And they'll suck on it a little bit, and they'll move it around their mouth.

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<v SPEAKER_1>They might spit it out a little bit.

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<v SPEAKER_1>They're getting the taste of the lamb.

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<v SPEAKER_1>They're getting the new flavor.

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<v SPEAKER_1>They're getting a little bit of the texture experience, but they're getting some of that iron and the zinc.

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<v SPEAKER_1>You can also do the pureed meat out of an open cup.

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<v SPEAKER_1>We like those purees that are a little bit thicker, that your baby can practice that open cup drinking.

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<v SPEAKER_1>Generally, you're aiming for five minutes of open cup drinking after each meal.

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<v SPEAKER_1>But don't be shy about pureeing meat.

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<v SPEAKER_1>At the beginning, you do a thin puree, you do a chunkier puree, and then you can even offer those solid strips of shreddable lamb in the same 20-minute feed.

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<v SPEAKER_1>And I teach more about that purees for a few days approach.

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<v SPEAKER_1>It's both on the free online workshop, Baby-Led Weaning For Beginners, and inside of my digital program, Baby-Led Weaning With Katie Ferraro.

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<v SPEAKER_1>Now for those parents that are like, okay, I'm on the fence.

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<v SPEAKER_1>I think I can do the meat thing, but where do I start?

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<v SPEAKER_1>I'm not down to try lamb on day four.

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<v SPEAKER_1>And that's fine if that's not for you.

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<v SPEAKER_1>Ground meat is what I call a gateway meat.

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<v SPEAKER_1>Okay, most parents are like, I feel like I can put a burger together.

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<v SPEAKER_1>Okay, even if you're a terrible cook.

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<v SPEAKER_1>And by the way, I am a terrible cook, but I figured out how to make all of these different cuts of meat safe for baby-led weaning.

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<v SPEAKER_1>And ground meat is a really nice one.

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<v SPEAKER_1>You want to choose the fattier cuts of meat, so we're not doing that extra lean stuff with like 5% fat.

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<v SPEAKER_1>Heck no, go for the fattier cuts.

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<v SPEAKER_1>Again, that fat is gonna liquefy and lubricate those protein strands and make it easier for your baby to swallow.

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<v SPEAKER_1>So you can do a ground lamb burger, you can do a ground pork burger, you can do a ground beef burger, you can do a ground turkey burger if you're doing, again, the fattier cuts, not the extra lean ground turkey.

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<v SPEAKER_1>The key with burgers, guys, is eggs make everything easier.

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<v SPEAKER_1>So if you can add an egg to your ground meat mixture, when you go to fry that burger, it's gonna help everything hold together a little bit better, right, because when the egg starts to cook and the protein of the egg white coagulates, it kind of holds everything together, because like a burger that's just plain meat is gonna fall apart, and that's gonna be hard for your earlier eater to pick up and feed themselves, right, because when your baby starts solid foods, they don't have their pincer grasp, okay?

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<v SPEAKER_1>That's not gonna happen until they're nine or ten months of age.

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<v SPEAKER_1>So if the burger strip that you cut into a piece about the size of your adult pinky finger just falls apart all over the bowl, how are they gonna pick the small pieces up?

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<v SPEAKER_1>So eggs are gonna help you out there, but here's the deal with egg, because it's a potentially allergenic food, you want to introduce your baby to egg first on its own a number of times without reaction before you start putting it into a burger product, okay?

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<v SPEAKER_1>And so one of the first combination food recipes that we actually do is once your baby passes egg, let's work on doing a ground meat burger with egg.

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<v SPEAKER_1>And then once that's cooked, you cut it into pieces about the size of your adult pinky finger.

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<v SPEAKER_1>Your baby can use their whole hand or their palmar grasp to rake and scoop the food up and into their mouth.

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<v SPEAKER_1>And now they're eating meat.

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<v SPEAKER_1>And for some families like, oh, okay, once they do that, then they're like, I'm all in on this meat stuff.

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<v SPEAKER_1>Show me how you make pork carnitas for babies.

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<v SPEAKER_1>Show me how you make a beef chuck roast.

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<v SPEAKER_1>Show me how you make beef brisket.

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<v SPEAKER_1>You definitely can get there, but do it sooner rather than later.

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<v SPEAKER_1>We're doing lamb, solid strips of lamb for babies on day four of Baby-Led Weaning.

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<v SPEAKER_1>If that doesn't work for you, do the purees for a few days approach the first week, do a ground meat burger the second week, but by the third week after you start solid foods, I want your baby going to town on those soft shreddable strips of meat.

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<v SPEAKER_1>Another tip when you offer meat is put a lot of broth in the bowl.

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<v SPEAKER_1>Okay, we always recommend feeding your baby out of a suction mat or a suction bowl.

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<v SPEAKER_1>Okay, the pliable ridge of those products, the suction helps the mat or the bowl stick to the table.

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<v SPEAKER_1>The table has to be clean and dry, which I know can be hard sometimes, but once you got the suction going, the pliable rim of the bowl or the plate is flexible, meaning your baby can use that whole hand or their palm or grasp to rake and scoop the food up and against that barrier.

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<v SPEAKER_1>So they're using the side of the bowl as a barrier to kind of scoop the food up.

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<v SPEAKER_1>If you put it right on the table or you put it right on the tray, they smash it with their flat hand, they rub it around and they can't pick it up and feed themselves.

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<v SPEAKER_1>And the parents are like, oh, this doesn't work, I need to feed the baby.

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<v SPEAKER_1>No, you don't.

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<v SPEAKER_1>If you have the right tools and you prepare the food safely, your baby can do this themselves.

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<v SPEAKER_1>But adding additional broth is beneficial because extra liquid makes the foods easier to swallow.

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<v SPEAKER_1>Right.

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<v SPEAKER_1>Think about like a really dry chicken breast.

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<v SPEAKER_1>I don't care how good of a cook you are or chef you are.

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<v SPEAKER_1>It's unlikely that your chicken breasts are exceptionally moist without adding a lot of fat.

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<v SPEAKER_1>We want those fattier cuts of meat.

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<v SPEAKER_1>We don't want dry foods in your baby's mouth.

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<v SPEAKER_1>It's hard for us eating experts to swallow dry foods.

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<v SPEAKER_1>Add extra moisture.

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<v SPEAKER_1>Go for a lot of no-salt broth.

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<v SPEAKER_1>If you're following the recipes from my program, you'll be like, gosh, I have never used so much low-salt broth in my life, but it's really, really helpful for making those somewhat scarier foods like meat safer for your baby to eat.

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<v SPEAKER_1>Here's a quick win to round this meat stuff out for you.

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<v SPEAKER_1>I wanna challenge you.

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<v SPEAKER_1>Go to the grocery store this week and I want you to buy a cut of meat that you are not familiar with or comfortable with or you don't usually cook.

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<v SPEAKER_1>Go to the butcher, go to the meat department.

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<v SPEAKER_1>If there's someone you can talk to even better.

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<v SPEAKER_1>I have a fantastic episode that we did with Cara Nicoletti.

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<v SPEAKER_1>She's a third generation butcher from the New York area.

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<v SPEAKER_1>She walked us all through the meat department.

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<v SPEAKER_1>In that episode, I'll link to that underneath here, but it's wonderful because different cuts of meats are called different things.

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<v SPEAKER_1>But our end goal here is to get soft, shreddable strips of meat.

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<v SPEAKER_1>I'll give you three really easy solutions if you're not used to these cuts.

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<v SPEAKER_1>Get yourself a beef chuck roast, get yourself a beef brisket, or get yourself a pork butt or shoulder roast.

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<v SPEAKER_1>Those end up fabulous and they're so easy to make, say, for baby-led weaning.

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<v SPEAKER_1>Boneless leg of lamb is another great one.

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<v SPEAKER_1>If you're following that 101st Foods Daily Meal Plan inside of our program, you're going to want the boneless leg of lamb.

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<v SPEAKER_1>Look for a lot of marbling.

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<v SPEAKER_1>Marbling is the fat that you see intertwined between the protein strands.

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<v SPEAKER_1>When you cook that very heavily marbled meat, it ends up nice and soft and shreddable and tender because it promotes moisture and you're going to add extra broth in there.

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<v SPEAKER_1>So you're going to cook it in liquid, you're going to serve it with a liquid, your baby's going to pick those pieces of meat up, they're going to put in their mouth, they're going to munch it, they're going to maybe chew it, they're going to move it around their mouth and maybe spit it out.

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<v SPEAKER_1>If they don't like the way it feels, they have a long piece of meat, they can pull it right out of their mouth on their own.

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<v SPEAKER_1>Good luck to you serving your baby some meat.

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<v SPEAKER_1>I know that this can be a stressful part of feeding, but the nutrition benefits, the texture, the taste benefits, not to mention the sense of confidence that you will have in your baby's ability to feed these foods once you see them do it even just once.

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<v SPEAKER_1>If you're not totally sold on it, start with the periods for a few days approach.

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<v SPEAKER_1>If you did that, no problem, move to that ground meat burger.

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<v SPEAKER_1>And the third time you do meat, I wanna see your baby do it, those soft shreddable strips of meat.

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<v SPEAKER_1>Lots more resources linked for you about making meat safe for your baby to eat, located right below where you're listening to this episode.

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<v SPEAKER_1>I'll also put them all in the show notes.

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