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How to Brush Your Baby's Teeth with @firstgrin Ashley Lerman, DDS

  • How to brush your baby’s gums with a muslin cloth…even if they’ve already fallen asleep
  • How to position your baby to brush their teeth…and how that position changes for older babies
  • Which type of toothpaste is best for babies and how much to use at each age and stage

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Oral care is important but how do you actually brush an infant’s gums or teeth? Pediatric Dentist and mom Ashley Lerman explains the best positioning and technique for brushing your baby’s teeth.

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About the Guest

  • Ashley Lerman, DDS is a board certified pediatric dentist and a new mom
  • She is the founder of First Grin, a company providing oral healthcare kits for babies
  • Ashley is passionate about helping families pave the way for a lifetime of optimal oral health

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<v SPEAKER_1>Are you trying to squeeze the starting solid food stuff into your already busy schedule?

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<v SPEAKER_1>Well, I have an all-in-one, done-for-you solution that's going to take the guesswork out of feeding your baby.

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<v SPEAKER_1>My online program is called Baby-Led Weaning with Katie Ferraro, contains all of my Baby-Led Weaning training videos, the original 100 First Foods content library, plus 100 day meal plan with recipes, like the exact sequence of which foods to feed in which order.

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<v SPEAKER_1>So if you want to stop trying to piece all this feeding stuff together on your own, I would be honored if you would join me inside of the program.

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<v SPEAKER_1>It is CPR Awareness Week.

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<v SPEAKER_1>And while there is no higher risk of choking with Baby-Led Weaning compared to conventional adult-led spoon feeding, choking is a very rare but real risk and knowing CPR can save your baby's life.

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<v SPEAKER_1>I recommend that everybody who helps feed your baby takes a refresher infant CPR course before starting solid foods.

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<v SPEAKER_1>I take a refresher infant CPR course online every quarter, just to stay current.

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<v SPEAKER_1>So the choking prevention and response course, it's a class we co-teach.

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<v SPEAKER_1>So it's me, a baby-led weaning dietician, Don Winkleman, who's a speech language pathologist who specializes in pediatric swallowing, and Brandon, the CPR instructor.

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<v SPEAKER_1>So we'll teach you everything you need to know about making a safe feeding situation so your baby doesn't choke on food.

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<v SPEAKER_1>So if that's you, you can get lifetime access to online CPR course for free when you sign up for the choking course.

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<v SPEAKER_1>Again, that's bit.ly slash CPR choking.

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<v SPEAKER_1>And I know this idea of offering a potentially allergenic food to your baby can be scary because you're like, oh my gosh, what if my baby has an allergic reaction to a food?

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<v SPEAKER_1>And the truth is, the only way to know if your baby is allergic to a food is to actually offer them that food.

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<v SPEAKER_1>And so there's nine foods that account for about 90% of food allergy.

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<v SPEAKER_1>And I want to show you how easy it is to make food-based versions of these proteins that you can offer to your baby so that if they have an allergic reaction, you'll know they're allergic, and if they don't, you'll know that they're not allergic.

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<v SPEAKER_1>Hey there, I'm Katie Ferraro, registered dietitian, college nutrition professor, and mom of seven, specializing in baby-led weaning.

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<v SPEAKER_1>Here on the Baby-Led Weaning with Katie Ferraro podcast, I help you strip out all of the noise and nonsense about feeding, giving you the confidence and knowledge you need to give your baby a safe start to solid foods using baby-led weaning.

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<v SPEAKER_1>What if your baby has an allergic reaction to food?

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<v SPEAKER_1>The only way to know if your baby's allergic to food is to offer them that food, but there are some safety guidelines that you want to know about.

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<v SPEAKER_1>So in this episode, we're going to look at the recent research and updated guidelines that support the early introduction of potentially allergenic foods, and then how to safely prepare those foods in order to help lower your baby's risk of food allergy.

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<v SPEAKER_1>So if you like this idea of teaching your baby how to eat real food, okay, we're not force-feeding purees or pouches or buying gimmicky supplement programs that you sprinkle into your baby's milk or cereal to introduce them to the allergenic foods.

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<v SPEAKER_1>If you like this idea of the real food stuff, please be sure to subscribe to this show, the Baby-Led Weaning with Katie Ferraro podcast.

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<v SPEAKER_1>Every week, I do a mini Baby-Led Weaning training episode on Monday and then a longer feeding expert interview every Thursday, so please do take a second, hit follow or subscribe to the show wherever you're listening from.

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<v SPEAKER_1>And if you have a mom friend who's also starting solid food soon, please tell her about the Baby-Led Weaning with Katie Ferraro podcast too.

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<v SPEAKER_1>Your word of mouth recommendations are so helpful in getting to share all of this evidence-based food first recommendation that are gonna help all babies learn how to like and safely eat real foods.

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<v SPEAKER_1>So I like to start each of these mini training episodes with a Baby-Led Weaning tip of the day.

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<v SPEAKER_1>And today's tip, your baby is almost certainly not going to die from an allergic reaction to food.

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<v SPEAKER_1>Sorry, I know that sounds blunt, but it's what everybody worries about.

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<v SPEAKER_1>Okay, what you're gonna learn about today is the research that supports the early introduction of allergenic foods, early and often to help prevent food allergy.

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<v SPEAKER_1>And I wanna show you and teach you how to make those foods safe for your baby.

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<v SPEAKER_1>And then you're gonna get there with the food, okay?

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<v SPEAKER_1>And even though you're like studied and practiced and you're all ready to go, you are still gonna be freaking out that your baby's going to have a reaction.

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<v SPEAKER_1>And I know this can be scary, right?

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<v SPEAKER_1>This idea, oh my gosh, I'm gonna offer a food to my baby that could potentially cause an allergic reaction.

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<v SPEAKER_1>But here's the thing.

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<v SPEAKER_1>The only way to know if your baby's allergic to a food is to offer them that food.

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<v SPEAKER_1>And no, you don't do it parked in your minivan outside of the emergency room, okay?

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<v SPEAKER_1>Most babies are gonna be cleared for home introduction of these potentially allergenic foods.

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<v SPEAKER_1>But you do worry, oh my gosh, what if something bad happens?

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<v SPEAKER_1>And here's the deal.

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<v SPEAKER_1>Death from anaphylaxis, from food allergy, is almost all but unheard of in infancy.

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<v SPEAKER_1>Now, as your baby gets older, yes, the severity of these anaphylactic reactions increases.

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<v SPEAKER_1>So it's another reason to do the allergenic foods early and often, besides it being literally the only thing that you can do to lower your baby's risk of food allergy, okay?

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<v SPEAKER_1>If there is a reaction, though, it's almost certainly unlikely to be life-threatening.

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<v SPEAKER_1>So you've got to offer those allergenic foods, and that's the point of this episode.

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<v SPEAKER_1>Today, we're going to cover what the top nine allergenic foods are.

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<v SPEAKER_1>Those are the nine foods that account for about 90% of food allergy and how you can use real food to introduce them to your baby.

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<v SPEAKER_1>Then, number two, I want to share what to do if your baby does have an allergic reaction to food and why they're unlikely to die from that.

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<v SPEAKER_1>Okay, food allergies are certainly very serious, but there's massive benefits to introducing these foods early and often, and I want you to walk away knowing those benefits today.

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<v SPEAKER_1>Number three, we're going to talk about how to safely introduce all of the top nine allergenic foods, and we're going to do that in the first nine weeks after starting solid foods.

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<v SPEAKER_1>I want to tell you a quick story about a friend's baby that I knew with almost absolute certainty that this baby was going to have an allergic reaction to food.

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<v SPEAKER_1>And my own children do not have any food allergies whatsoever.

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<v SPEAKER_1>We did all of the allergenic foods with them early and often, but no signs of allergic reaction.

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<v SPEAKER_1>But my friend Ashley, her daughter, Braden, it's her second baby, had the most severe eczema that I've ever seen in my life.

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<v SPEAKER_1>I'm not talking about like the run-of-the-mill eczema that all your babies have.

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<v SPEAKER_1>This was like severe, just painful to even look at.

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<v SPEAKER_1>This poor baby was constantly scratching, and it was a major, major, major pain point in her development.

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<v SPEAKER_1>Even before they started solid foods, they messed around with a whole bunch of different formulas and just couldn't really get it sorted out.

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<v SPEAKER_1>And by the time she started solid foods, she was almost entirely covered in very severe eczema.

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<v SPEAKER_1>One of the first foods that we did was egg, and the baby had an allergic reaction to egg.

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<v SPEAKER_1>So now we've got severe eczema and an egg allergy.

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<v SPEAKER_1>So when it came time to introduce peanut, this baby was showing already the two signs that put her at high risk for peanut allergy, having severe eczema and also having an egg allergy.

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<v SPEAKER_1>If you don't have either or both of those, then your baby's not in the high risk category for peanut allergy.

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<v SPEAKER_1>So I could say almost without a doubt, Ashley, your daughter's going to have an allergic reaction to peanut.

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<v SPEAKER_1>What do you want to do?

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<v SPEAKER_1>Check with the pediatrician.

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<v SPEAKER_1>Baby was cleared for home introduction of peanut.

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<v SPEAKER_1>We did some PuffWorks baby peanut puffs together.

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<v SPEAKER_1>And sure enough, about 20 minutes after trying the peanut puffs, the baby had hives all over her body and she was particularly fussy.

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<v SPEAKER_1>And she's normally like a really chill baby.

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<v SPEAKER_1>So the presence of the hives, which was the skin reaction, plus another symptom, which was fussiness or unusual fussiness.

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<v SPEAKER_1>Oh my gosh, okay, she's having an allergic reaction to peanut.

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<v SPEAKER_1>But guess what?

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<v SPEAKER_1>We didn't go to the ER.

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<v SPEAKER_1>We didn't freak out.

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<v SPEAKER_1>We observed the baby for about 20 minutes.

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<v SPEAKER_1>The hives went away on their own.

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<v SPEAKER_1>She kind of returned to normal.

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<v SPEAKER_1>We took a lot of pictures and then followed up with a pediatrician later who eventually, when she was a little bit older, recommended her for testing.

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<v SPEAKER_1>And sure enough, she tested positive for peanut allergy.

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<v SPEAKER_1>But you never test for food allergy to a food that your baby hasn't reacted to.

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<v SPEAKER_1>But since she had had a reaction to egg and she'd had a reaction to peanut, highly suspected egg and peanut allergy.

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<v SPEAKER_1>And I share this story just to let you know that the idea of offering your baby a food that could potentially cause an allergic reaction can be very scary, but she's not going to die from that, okay?

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<v SPEAKER_1>Now, later on in life, if she'd never been exposed to peanut, yes, the severity of that anaphylactic reaction could be much higher.

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<v SPEAKER_1>But in infancy, just remember, that's the time where we want to be introducing those allergenic foods and the only way to know is to actually offer those foods.

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<v SPEAKER_1>And for Brayden, I just want to let you know that even though she ended up having an allergy to peanut and an allergy to eggs, she also was allergic to cow's milk protein as well.

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<v SPEAKER_1>Like, that's a lot to deal with, but she still was able to eat 100 foods before she turned one.

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<v SPEAKER_1>You just avoid the potentially allergenic foods.

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<v SPEAKER_1>And sometimes when you get a food allergy diagnosis, it can feel like the end of the world.

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<v SPEAKER_1>But even though it's hard to kind of shift your mindset there, really encourage parents to think of all the foods that your baby can eat.

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<v SPEAKER_1>And again, Braden ate over 100 different foods before she turned one, even though she still had those food allergies.

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<v SPEAKER_1>And your baby can do that as well.

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<v SPEAKER_1>So let's get started looking at what are the top nine allergenic foods.

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<v SPEAKER_1>The top nine are the nine foods that account for about 90% of food allergy in North America.

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<v SPEAKER_1>And the top nine allergenic foods are cow's milk protein, egg, peanut, wheat, soy, tree nut, fish, shellfish, and sesame.

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<v SPEAKER_1>Now, when do you introduce these allergenic foods?

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<v SPEAKER_1>The old guidelines.

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<v SPEAKER_1>I remember when I was studying to be a dietician well over 20 years ago.

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<v SPEAKER_1>The guidelines were withhold dairy foods until age one, withhold egg until age two, withhold fish, peanuts, and nut until age three.

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<v SPEAKER_1>There was absolutely no evidence to support those guidelines, and yet across the board, it's what everybody did.

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<v SPEAKER_1>Now, fast forward 25 some odd years later, we have significantly better research and data to indicate that actually early introduction of these potentially allergenic foods is what helps lower the risk of food allergy.

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<v SPEAKER_1>We have the best data for peanut, but pretty strong data for some of the other potentially allergenic foods.

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<v SPEAKER_1>And also, we know there are absolutely no benefits to withholding the introduction of these allergenic foods.

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<v SPEAKER_1>And the landmark study that kind of started this shift in the opposite direction, earlier introduction of allergenic foods, was a study that was published in February of 2015 called the LEAP study, learning early about peanut allergy.

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<v SPEAKER_1>What happened after the LEAP study was published was researchers basically in this study, they randomized kids to two groups, one that had purposeful introduction of peanut foods in infancy.

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<v SPEAKER_1>Okay, so they were offering baby these peanut puffs, they're very popular in Israel called Bamba, and then the other group was not forced to eat peanut early on.

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<v SPEAKER_1>And what the researchers found was that the risk for food allergy, for peanut allergy in particular, was significantly lower in the group that had had exposure to peanut protein earlier in life.

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<v SPEAKER_1>So what happened was for about two years after this, panels deliberated before publishing the addendum guidelines.

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<v SPEAKER_1>So then in January of 2017, the National Institutes of Health published these addendum guidelines for the introduction of peanuts to infants, okay?

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<v SPEAKER_1>And it recommended the early introduction of peanuts in order to help prevent peanut allergy.

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<v SPEAKER_1>And it kind of set off this wave of other research and other studies that have come out since that show not as strong as peanut, but certainly benefits for early introduction of these potentially allergenic foods.

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<v SPEAKER_1>So currently, the guidelines are to offer the potentially allergenic foods early and often.

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<v SPEAKER_1>And again, we know there's no benefit to withholding them.

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<v SPEAKER_1>So all those old guidances like, wait until one for this and two for that and three for that, totally out the window, the research points to earlier introduction.

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<v SPEAKER_1>There's also some other research that indicates that that protective window, where introducing the potentially allergenic foods early and often can help lower the risk of food allergy, that window appears to close at around the 11-month mark.

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<v SPEAKER_1>And I did a whole separate podcast episode all about that 11-month mark.

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<v SPEAKER_1>And I did that with a researcher, Dr.

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<v SPEAKER_1>David Stukas.

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<v SPEAKER_1>He's one of the world's leading pediatric food allergy researchers.

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<v SPEAKER_1>Episode 227 is called When Does the Food Allergy Prevention Window Close?

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<v SPEAKER_1>It's with Dr.

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<v SPEAKER_1>David Stukas.

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<v SPEAKER_1>If you'd like more information on that, I do recommend listening to that episode.

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<v SPEAKER_1>Now, the next question parents generally ask about introducing allergenic foods is how much of the allergenic food do you offer?

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<v SPEAKER_1>And the answer is we don't really know.

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<v SPEAKER_1>Okay, there's no real guidance on what's a quote-unquote efficacious dose.

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<v SPEAKER_1>Like how many grams of said peanut protein, for example, should the baby have to get in their mouth in order for it to quote-unquote count?

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<v SPEAKER_1>We just don't know.

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<v SPEAKER_1>One thing researchers all agree on, though, it's not just a one-and-done situation.

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<v SPEAKER_1>You don't just offer the peanut puffs one time, and then like, oh, they didn't react, okay, I guess they don't have an allergy to peanut protein.

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<v SPEAKER_1>Because the truth is if your baby is going to have an allergic reaction to a food, it will generally occur on the second or the subsequent exposure.

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<v SPEAKER_1>So you need to do these early and often.

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<v SPEAKER_1>In my program, we do all nine of the allergenic foods in the first nine weeks.

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<v SPEAKER_1>We do the new allergenic food for the first time on Friday.

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<v SPEAKER_1>We do it two times on Saturday.

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<v SPEAKER_1>We do it two times on Sunday.

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<v SPEAKER_1>With no other new foods across the weekend, you do continue to reintroduce familiar foods from previous days.

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<v SPEAKER_1>But that allergenic food, we do at least six or seven times across the weekend.

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<v SPEAKER_1>Now, could your baby react on the eighth time?

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<v SPEAKER_1>Of course.

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<v SPEAKER_1>But more often than not, it will be within one of those first few times, but you do need to do it more than one.

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<v SPEAKER_1>So does it matter what order you introduce the allergenic foods in?

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<v SPEAKER_1>And the answer is no, it really does not.

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<v SPEAKER_1>Generally, egg, milk, and peanut, in my experience, they are the most common pediatric food allergies, and they're kind of very easy to introduce in food form to babies who are starting solid foods.

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<v SPEAKER_1>So if you just wanted to pick one to start with, egg or milk or peanut, again, those ones are really easy to do.

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<v SPEAKER_1>If your babies had formula, I know they're not allergic to cow's milk protein because the base of commercial infant formula is cow's milk protein, but egg, peanut, sometimes babies haven't had those, put those ones up top and do at least one new allergenic food every week if you can.

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<v SPEAKER_1>But I also want you to know it doesn't matter what order you go in.

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<v SPEAKER_1>I've introduced all nine of the allergenic foods as the first one for different babies.

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<v SPEAKER_1>Just to show you that you can start with any of the allergenic foods, it's most important that you get them done.

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<v SPEAKER_1>It doesn't matter what order you go in.

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<v SPEAKER_1>Sometimes parents will say, oh, I've done some of them.

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<v SPEAKER_1>No, you want to do all of them, and you want to do them prior to 11 months of age, and my suggestion is if you just do one a week, and there's nine of them, and you start in week one of starting solid foods nine weeks into this, which is about the time when your baby will move into phase two of baby-led weaning and they really get the hang of things, you'll already have knocked out all of the allergenic foods.

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<v SPEAKER_1>And then sometimes parents will ask, well, can I just use supplements to introduce the allergenic foods?

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<v SPEAKER_1>So when it comes to the supplement programs, I want you to know they are not safer than real food.

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<v SPEAKER_1>Some of these companies have come under fire for some of their dubious marketing practices and making claims and making parents feel that supplements are safer than food.

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<v SPEAKER_1>They're not.

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<v SPEAKER_1>It's not easier than real food, having to buy a special something and mix it into a different food.

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<v SPEAKER_1>Why not just offer your baby the food protein?

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<v SPEAKER_1>It's also not cheaper than real food.

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<v SPEAKER_1>Our goal here is to help your baby learn how to eat real food, so let's use real food to introduce the food proteins.

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<v SPEAKER_1>Now, what's the easiest way to introduce each of these allergenic foods?

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<v SPEAKER_1>I do have a lot of content on this podcast about the individual allergenic foods and how to introduce them, but I want to do a rundown of the list of the allergenic foods and just tell you a little bit about my favorite way to do each one of these.

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<v SPEAKER_1>If we start with cow's milk protein, one of the easiest ways to offer your baby cow's milk protein is to offer yogurt.

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<v SPEAKER_1>I do full fat whole milk yogurt off of a preloaded spoon.

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<v SPEAKER_1>Again, if your baby's had formula, we know they're not allergic to cow's milk, but for the exclusively breastfed baby, yeah, you want to get that cow's milk protein in early and often.

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<v SPEAKER_1>When it comes to egg, doing fried egg strips is a very easy way to get your baby that egg white.

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<v SPEAKER_1>The egg white is where the protein is, but the yolk is where the iron and some of the other good nutrition and the fat live.

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<v SPEAKER_1>So if you fry an egg, break the yolk, mix it around in with the egg white, cook that egg when it cools, cut it into strips about the size of your adult pinky finger, and offer it to your baby.

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<v SPEAKER_1>When it comes to peanuts, I love the Puffworks Baby Peanut Puffs.

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<v SPEAKER_1>I don't do a lot of packaged or processed foods, but I find this to be a very easy way to introduce your baby to the potentially allergenic food peanut.

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<v SPEAKER_1>If you want to check out the Puffworks Baby Peanuts, I like those peanut puffs because they don't have any added sugar, they don't have any salt, some of the other brands do.

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<v SPEAKER_1>The Puffworks Baby Peanut Puffs are also the softest puffs on the market.

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<v SPEAKER_1>They dissolve very easily on your baby's tongue, so you can start these even before your baby has teeth.

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<v SPEAKER_1>They also have an almond puff for doing tree nuts, and that code is BLWPOD.

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<v SPEAKER_1>So BLWPOD will get you 15% off at puffworks.com if you want to check out some of those products.

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<v SPEAKER_1>When it comes to wheat, one of my favorite ways to introduce babies to the potentially allergenic food wheat is to do pasta.

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<v SPEAKER_1>You do very soft cooked pieces of pasta.

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<v SPEAKER_1>I like the longer strips, the ones that are about the size of your adult pinky finger.

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<v SPEAKER_1>So things like penne or rigatoni or cavatappi.

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<v SPEAKER_1>Soy is another allergenic food, and tofu is the easiest way to do soy.

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<v SPEAKER_1>You don't have to do anything to tofu.

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<v SPEAKER_1>It's actually a pretty decent source of iron as well.

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<v SPEAKER_1>Just cut it soft or firm or extra firm, whatever kind of tofu you want to do.

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<v SPEAKER_1>Cut it into pieces about the size of your adult pinky finger.

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<v SPEAKER_1>As far as tree nut goes, tree nut, you can do any thinned out, like almond butter, for example, or cashew butter.

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<v SPEAKER_1>You want to make it nice and thin though, because sticky nut butters are a choking hazard.

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<v SPEAKER_1>But if you thin it out with breast milk or formula or unsweetened applesauce or yogurt, if your baby already passed cow's milk, get it nice and thin so it slides off of your adult stainless steel spoon.

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<v SPEAKER_1>That means that it's not sticky.

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<v SPEAKER_1>It's not going to get lodged on the roof or the side of your baby's mouth.

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<v SPEAKER_1>You can also do those Puffworks puffs.

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<v SPEAKER_1>I love the almond puffs for babies.

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<v SPEAKER_1>Sorry, I hate nut butters.

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<v SPEAKER_1>I hate the way they smell.

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<v SPEAKER_1>I hate how messy they are.

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<v SPEAKER_1>I'm super lazy when it comes to introducing nuts, and I much prefer the puffs.

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<v SPEAKER_1>So the Puffworks Baby Almond Puffs.

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<v SPEAKER_1>Again, that code is BLWPOD if you want to check them out for tree nut.

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<v SPEAKER_1>Hey, we're going to take a quick break, but I'll be right back.

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<v SPEAKER_1>When it comes to fish, I love fatty fish, because any fatty food, especially the protein foods, it's easier for the baby to swallow, because the fat, when you cook, it helps to lubricate those protein strands, again, making it safer and easier for the baby to swallow.

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<v SPEAKER_1>So fatty fish, like salmon, wonderful way to introduce your baby to fish protein.

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<v SPEAKER_1>I think I have four or five different ways to do fish inside of our 100 First Foods Daily Meal Plan.

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<v SPEAKER_1>That's part of my Baby-Led Weaning with Katie Ferraro program, but I just love fish protein, and I think it's a totally underutilized protein food for babies, and we want to get fish in early and often.

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<v SPEAKER_1>So even if you're not inclined to eat so much fish or shellfish, those are two different allergenic food categories, when your baby starts solid foods, it's a good idea to be working those into the rotation.

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<v SPEAKER_1>So when it comes to shellfish, that's a separate allergenic food.

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<v SPEAKER_1>I love to do crab cakes for babies.

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<v SPEAKER_1>We do lobster a lot of times as the 100th food to celebrate the baby's 100 foods, but if you're not there yet, making low salt crab cakes is such a fun, easy way to introduce your baby to the potentially allergenic food, shellfish.

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<v SPEAKER_1>For my baby-led weaning recipe for crab cakes, I use panko breadcrumbs instead of regular breadcrumbs.

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<v SPEAKER_1>So panko are Japanese-style breadcrumbs that tend to be much lower in salt than regular Italian-style breadcrumbs.

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<v SPEAKER_1>And you also need an egg in there to kind of make everything stick together, but it's so fun to watch a baby eat crab cakes, trust me.

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<v SPEAKER_1>Last allergenic food, sesame.

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<v SPEAKER_1>Sesame was the most recent add to the top nine.

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<v SPEAKER_1>It used to be called the big eight list of allergenic foods, and then sesame got added because sesame is a potentially allergenic food as well.

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<v SPEAKER_1>And my favorite way to do sesame for babies is to offer thinned out tahini.

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<v SPEAKER_1>So tahini you're probably familiar with if you've ever had hummus, but if you buy commercial hummus like the ones from the store, it's way too high in salt, so I suggest thinning it out, much like you do with the nut butters.

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<v SPEAKER_1>Get it nice and thin so it runs off of your adult stainless steel spoon, and then you can offer it off of a preloaded spoon to your baby.

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<v SPEAKER_1>So there's a little bit about how to introduce allergenic foods to your baby.

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<v SPEAKER_1>My hope for you is that if you started Solid Foods and you haven't done allergenic foods yet, you gotta do one new one this week, or do more than one.

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<v SPEAKER_1>Just don't do two new allergenic foods at the same time, right, because if your baby has an allergic reaction, how would you know which one they're reacting to?

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<v SPEAKER_1>Do one new allergenic food a week, every week, for the next nine weeks, and you'll be done if you want more guidance and help on how to safely introduce those allergenic foods.

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<v SPEAKER_1>I have tons of information about that inside of my program, Baby-Led Weaning with Katie Ferraro, as well as 20 weeks of meal plans that will help you sequence in these allergenic foods.

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<v SPEAKER_1>Because once you pass some of the allergenic foods, especially egg, then it gets really fun, because you can use that egg to then start making fritters and different multi-textured foods that your baby will start to eat, usually around phase two of Baby-Led Weaning.

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<v SPEAKER_1>So stick to those allergenic foods if you can.

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<v SPEAKER_1>Get them in early and often.

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<v SPEAKER_1>If you want to check out the program, Baby-Led Weaning with Katie Ferraro, it's at babyledweaning.co/program.

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<v SPEAKER_1>I'll also put some more resources and some other episodes about allergenic foods you might enjoy in the show notes page for this episode.

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<v SPEAKER_1>And I know the allergenic food stuff can be a little freaky, but remember, the only way to know your baby's allergic to food is to actually offer them that food.

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<v SPEAKER_1>So get those foods in early and often, and happy feeding.

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